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    • CommentAuthortfvimalan
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2007
     
    Please try to make the mobile Bible program in tamil language. If any help from me please mail me, I can participate your team to spread gaspel to all over the world
    • CommentAuthortfvimalan
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2007
     
    Realy Bible in Mobile phones are very good and most useful for us. Because carrying bibles are dificult in some places like saudi arabia.
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2007
     
    This observation was one I made during my talk in Cheadle last month.
    Go Bible could be very useful in such places, as it would be far less obvious to the religious police that you have a forbidden book!
    Hence the need for prayer that the work of Go Bible will be successful in reaching the people in Saudi Arabia and other nations dominated by such schemes.
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      CommentAuthorJolon
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2007
     
    The main issue in producing a Tamil Go Bible is that very few phones support the Tamil font. The only way around this is for Go Bible to incorporate the font in the application itself. This is not currently supported by Go Bible and would require a major rewrite (although it is something I've considered before).

    Interestingly the draft MIDP 3.0 spec indicates that it will support the inclusion of custom fonts within applications which would save us a lot of work but we would need to wait until MIDP 3.0 phones are released.

    Jolon.
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2007
     
    Anyone want to donate a mobile phone that supports MIDP 2.0 and J2ME that does have the Tamil font?

    Someone could help also by listing mobile phone models that do support the Tamil font, presumably being sold in India and Sri Lanka, and in other countries where there is a significant number of Tamil speakers. If any of the models have the same number as European and American versions, please also include details of the firmware.
    • CommentAuthorJensG
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2007 edited
     
    When you make a ThML File in utf-8 then must the installed Font display the Content - I can make this ThML File. .... and so.. everybody can tested.

    Jens Grabner
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2007
     
    Displaying Tamil on a PC is not the issue - since Tamil fonts can be easily installed in Windows. I can already view Tamil Bibles.
    The issue is that most Western mobile phone models do not have fonts for Tamil script pre-installed.
    Likewise for Korean and several other non-Latin scripts, with notable exceptions, such as Arabic, Greek, Cyrillic, Chinese....

    Anyone found good information on the web about installing such extra UTF-8 fonts in the Sony Ericsson K750i ?
    Or for any other mobile phones for that matter?
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2007
     
    I've been reading up a bit about Indic scripts such as Tamil. There is an interesting discussion at http://www.lirneasia.net/2006/05/tamilnadu-adopts-tamil-sms-solution-developed-in-sri-lanka/
    which starts by a post by the Sri Lankan academic Donald Gaminitillake
    See also http://www.akuru.org/ which is his viewpoint about the need for better standards.

    Jolon,

    I don't think it would be a good use of your valuable time to make Go Bible to incorporate the font in the application itself.
    This would be an impossible task that could never be finished by a single individual.

    David Haslam

    PS. Readers new to this subject - please also visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode
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      CommentAuthorJolon
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2007
     
    I made some progress today in generating Tamil font bitmaps from a sample ThML file someone sent me.

    The process is a bit complex because a series of Tamil unicode characters can be combined to result in a single but different glyph. The current technique I am using looks ahead to see if the next character is a vowel sign, if it is it generates the two characters as a single glyph. I'm not sure whether this approach covers all cases, later I will need to confirm it is correct with someone who reads Tamil.

    Note: I've only generated the bitmaps. Much more remains to be done in converting the original Tamil data to point to the new glyphs and then to modify Go Bible to be able to render the glyphs (which will probably be the most work).
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2007
     
    Do you have any Tamil speaking contacts who can check your fonts, etc?
    See also http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/fonts_windows.html#tamil
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2007
     
    http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/tamil.html
    • CommentAuthorJensG
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2007
     
    I have make a csv-File, you can work with them: http://www.grabner-online.de/download/bible_tamil_csv.zip

    Jens Grabner
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2007
     
    Read the Tamil Bible online at http://www.tamilbible.net/biblepage/
    On the left margin see, "To view this site install TamilBible font. Download a new copy of the TamilBible Font by clicking here."

    NB. This is for Windows only, so Mac users such as Jolon will not be able to use it.

    David Haslam
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2007
     
    The site also links to Tamil Christian's download page http://www.tamilchristian.com/download/

    This includes Holy Bibles in Tamil-English and in Tamil-German (both presumably parallel columns).
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2007
     
    These are downloads!
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2007
     
    Here's another useful Tamil Bible site "Tamil Bible in Unicode" http://www.tamil-bible.com/
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2007
     
    And another "Bible in Tamil" http://www.bibleintamil.com/
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2007
     
    I confirm that the Tamil Bible font works on my Windows XP notebook.
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2007
     
    The compare option in http://www.tamilbible.net/biblepage/ operates as interlinear.
    Compare languages are: Tamil (KJV), English (Darby), Danish, Dutch, French, German, Norwegian
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2007
     
    The Tamil Mobile Bible has been released. It works on Indian CDMA phones, and may work on other models.
    Visit http://yesudas.rs.googlepages.com/
    It was made using Go Bible Creator. Further Indian languages are planned.
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2007
     
    You will need Unicode font support!
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2007
     
    Bookname and user interface are English. The word opportunity is mis-spelled as "opertunity" in the Info:

    My K750i does not have Tamil fonts.

    It may be worthwhile trying the Tamil Go Bible in one of the J2ME emulators, on a PC that has Unicode fonts installed that include Tamil.
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2007
     
    There is a broken link on his Tamil softwares page, the correct URL for "Unicode settings" should be
    http://blog.sapauljoseph.info/2006-07-24/using-tamil-in-unicode-supported-applications/

    Just one of the things that can happen when you link to a blog article.
    • CommentAuthoryesudas
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2007
     
    Hi David and Jolon,
    I have found some models of nokia which supports tamil.
    Now nokia is giving support for many indian languages.
    For example
    1. 6030 supports Tamil and Hindi Languages.
    2. 2310 supports Tamil, Kannada and Hindi Languages.
    3. Almost all nokia series in India, supports Hindi Language.

    I tested our Tamil Version of Go Bible in those mobiles.
    Even when i send sms of bible verse in tamil,
    its working fine.

    I think, soon in India, all nokia mobiles will support all
    indian languages (nokia has there manufacturing unit in Tamil Nadu, a State of India).
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2007
     
    Good news indeed - how soon before Nokia's competitors will catch up, I wonder?
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2007
     
    Available Fonts South Asian Language and Resource Center

    http://salrc.uchicago.edu/resources/fonts/available/
    • CommentAuthorDFH
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008 edited
     
    The Tamil Bible is also now available as a module for the Windows Bible software called "The Word". See
    http://www.theword.gr/en/index.php/w/download?ws=bibletexts